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#21 (permalink)      4/30/2022 9:27:11 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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You may also be able to get certain batteries by taking apart tool battery packs, seems like a pain in the ass to me but in a pinch it could be a good source of readily available batteries. Youtube might be able to tell you a bit about what batteries are in what packs.
#22 (permalink)      4/30/2022 11:03:58 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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EternalSpline wrote:

I am not a brand loyalist or anything, but the name brands feel safer to me with batteries.


Oh, absolutely. If someone lives in ANY country in which the recognised names are available, it would be daft to save a few pennies getting something potentially unknown and below the safe specs required by the way you vape.


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Good luck with finding out, maybe FT will cut one open for you or test one.


FT used to test cells for capacity (hey, it's better than nothing). As they only put these up for sale yesterday, perhaps they still will.

It's twelve inches long, but don't use it as a rule...
#23 (permalink)      4/30/2022 1:13:54 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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EternalSpline wrote:

So far for me the Molicel batteries I got where just OK.



I am one of the few here that does not rave wildly about Molicel's as well. Bought about 8 in two different batches but admit I still prefer the Samsung 30Q as did my partner. He only vapes at 1.8ohms and preferred them as well.

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Still.Me wrote:

I am one of the few here that does not rave wildly about Molicel's as well. Bought about 8 in two different batches but admit I still prefer the Samsung 30Q as did my partner. He only vapes at 1.8ohms and preferred them as well.


Personally, I find Mollies good-all-rounders, but with a preference for Murata in 18650s.

But like many things in life, there's no such thing as a 'one size fits all', as you both quite rightly demonstrate.

Molicel are generally lauded, as they're use for vaping is given the thumbs-up by the manufacturer, unlike all the others.

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EternalSpline wrote:

Buying batteries from a vape shop is a big markup. Why don't you buy your batteries from battery shops?



The best batteries I have used are the LG brown batteries. Maybe it is how I use them? Oddly they are now missing from the battery shop I use, zero available.



Look closely behind the mechs I posted in the porn thread... An order I just received of nic and batteries... Available...


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#26 (permalink)      4/30/2022 4:59:29 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Been using samsung 25r, 20s, lg hg2, hb1/2/6, golisi, imren, epoch, sanyo, sony and molicels and the molicels are amongst the best imo.
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#27 (permalink)      4/30/2022 5:36:50 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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The number of cycles and mAh delivered versus costs... We'd all probably pay a lot more for a battery that would last 1000's of cycles...

The hg2 is a pretty good value at under 5 bucks... The 4 I just retired are 3 years old and had over 800 cycles... Still held around 2300mAh and will vape half a day for me... Your mileage may vary depending on how you use and charge them...
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#28 (permalink)      5/1/2022 2:35:02 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Going back nearly ten years ago, my battery of choice (on someone's recommendation) were red AWs from Andy Wang. Remember him?

I then moved to Sony VTC4s, which were solid cells. For higher mAh, I also used the yellow AWTs, especially the 26650s, until it became known counterfeits were showing up and it was difficult to tell visually the good from the bad.

When that happened, I moved on to LG Browns across the board for 18650s. Great cells, and never once had a dud.

Moving forward to today, Murata VTC6s are my 18650 of choice, with Molicel & Samsung 40Ts for 21700s.

Edited on 5/1/2022 at 2:37 AM (typo)
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Andy Wang... Sure enough... He got his start on Candlepower forums selling batteries then took off from there. Decent batteries, He graded, wrapped and sold them...

Resistance and weight are a good way to check for counterfeit cells... It's hard to fudge those numbers... Data sheets give references...
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#30 (permalink)      5/1/2022 7:13:05 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Vapor wrote:

Andy Wang... Sure enough... He got his start on Candlepower forums selling batteries then took off from there. Decent batteries, He graded, wrapped and sold them...


He did indeed. Every single cell too.

I remember there being a bit of drama on a couple of forums when it was discovered AWs were being counterfeited, with various advice on how to spot the duds. In truth though, Andy at the time said it straight... "I only supply directly to those retailers who actually sell my batteries. Never to wholesalers, distributors or fleaBay sellers." We had three outlets in the UK, two torch shops and Cloud 9.

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#31 (permalink)      5/1/2022 1:39:44 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Recent DeWalt, and other brands under the Black & Decker flag, like Porter Cable, have been using different 18650s through the years, but mostly they've stuck to Samsung 15M, 20R, and 30Q, all depending on application and product rating.

Milwaukee Tools tend to be a bit better, with Sony VTC5 (not VTC5a) and LG HD4s.

Other companies are potluck, but the adage "you get what you pay for" applies.

Many/ Most of the newer high power/longer life packs ("{XR", etc.) are 40ts. (21700)

This isn't something the average person should attempt...knowledge of cells, safety, and de-soldering are invaluable. FYI, most packs are fastened together with 4 specialty "tamper resistant" allen head bolts/screws, so a "Security Bit" tool set will need to be purchased.

SHOWN: VTC5 pack, jumbo 15M pack
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